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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2011/03/only-amateurs/comment-page-1/#comment-58803</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael: Thanks for the comment.

If you&#039;re saying you disagree with the statement in the post title, so do I.

This was an off-the-cuff post, and maybe I didn&#039;t make it clear enough: For most people and for most purposes, Excel (or its competitors) has become the most appropriate database tool available. My brother has linked workbooks for his role as a church treasurer; I use linked spreadsheets within a workbook (OK, I&#039;m sloppy, I called them pages within a spreadsheet) all the time; and my crude household accounting tools are in Excel. (Checkbook balancing I do on paper.)

What I&#039;m basically saying is that the old assertion that you should always use a DBMS for databases, which may never have been true, is now false for many, probably most household and small-scale databases. I think you agree with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: Thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re saying you disagree with the statement in the post title, so do I.</p>
<p>This was an off-the-cuff post, and maybe I didn&#8217;t make it clear enough: For most people and for most purposes, Excel (or its competitors) has become the most appropriate database tool available. My brother has linked workbooks for his role as a church treasurer; I use linked spreadsheets within a workbook (OK, I&#8217;m sloppy, I called them pages within a spreadsheet) all the time; and my crude household accounting tools are in Excel. (Checkbook balancing I do on paper.)</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m basically saying is that the old assertion that you should always use a DBMS for databases, which may never have been true, is now false for many, probably most household and small-scale databases. I think you agree with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Golrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Golrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 17:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure I agree...maybe because I have become so expert in Excel, and because it meets my needs.

Yes, Access can do some things better, but the amount of time to invest in learning which is then not transferable to anything else, and the re-learning I need to do each time I go back to it (after a 6 - 18 month absence) means that I use Excel for a lot.

One of my favorite functions these days is &quot;COUNTIF&quot; which can tell me how many have answered a question.

And, you can link between spreadsheets, and even workbooks. I have moved all my (admittedly simple) personal accounting (i.e. checkbook balancing and bill paying) to Excel (even if my wife mocks me...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure I agree&#8230;maybe because I have become so expert in Excel, and because it meets my needs.</p>
<p>Yes, Access can do some things better, but the amount of time to invest in learning which is then not transferable to anything else, and the re-learning I need to do each time I go back to it (after a 6 &#8211; 18 month absence) means that I use Excel for a lot.</p>
<p>One of my favorite functions these days is &#8220;COUNTIF&#8221; which can tell me how many have answered a question.</p>
<p>And, you can link between spreadsheets, and even workbooks. I have moved all my (admittedly simple) personal accounting (i.e. checkbook balancing and bill paying) to Excel (even if my wife mocks me&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 15:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I almost wrote &quot;it&#039;s just a crosstab,&quot; because that&#039;s what I think of it as--a set of subtotals for values in one column based on unique values in another column, in this case the columns being expense amounts and expense categories--but it&#039;s one instance of a pivot table in Excel. 

I&#039;m no Excel expert; I just played with it and used Help to browse around. (Vlookup, which was essential to converting one two-table database to a spreadsheet, is still tough enough that I can&#039;t get it right the first time, but...) And I have yet to set up spreadsheets that refer to other spreadsheets, as opposed to other pages within the same file...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost wrote &#8220;it&#8217;s just a crosstab,&#8221; because that&#8217;s what I think of it as&#8211;a set of subtotals for values in one column based on unique values in another column, in this case the columns being expense amounts and expense categories&#8211;but it&#8217;s one instance of a pivot table in Excel. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m no Excel expert; I just played with it and used Help to browse around. (Vlookup, which was essential to converting one two-table database to a spreadsheet, is still tough enough that I can&#8217;t get it right the first time, but&#8230;) And I have yet to set up spreadsheets that refer to other spreadsheets, as opposed to other pages within the same file&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Kaye</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2011/03/only-amateurs/comment-page-1/#comment-58689</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I long to be able to toss off lines like &quot;it’s just a pivot table&quot; some day. Some day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I long to be able to toss off lines like &#8220;it’s just a pivot table&#8221; some day. Some day.</p>
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