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	<title>Comments on: Bandwidth of Large Airplanes, Take 2</title>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/06/bandwidth-of-large-airplanes-take-2/comment-page-1/#comment-44239</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter: You&#039;re welcome. I&#039;d discount Tyvek sleeves too, probably--but spindles with covers (which is what I was measuring, including weight) are probably at least as safe as slimpaks--less breakage-prone and with discs firmly locked in place.

marcbl: You&#039;re over 64? Good to have some older readers. And, actually, you might want to click on the first link in the post again and read the comments--specifically Eric Lease Morgan&#039;s comment about Google and FedExing hard discs as a cheap, fast way to move large quantities of data. Sure, if you needed, say, one gigabyte the net is the way to go--but if what you need is, say, 500 Terabytes, shipping objects around starts to look pretty attractive. 

(One reason why the U.S. probably isn&#039;t going to have universal on-demand high-def &quot;any movie or tv program you want, any time&quot; real soon: Not only is most U.S. broadband far too slow for HD, the backbones don&#039;t have the capacity for tens of millions of distinct 30mb/s streams. For certain purposes, broadcast and physical carriers still make lots of sense.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter: You&#8217;re welcome. I&#8217;d discount Tyvek sleeves too, probably&#8211;but spindles with covers (which is what I was measuring, including weight) are probably at least as safe as slimpaks&#8211;less breakage-prone and with discs firmly locked in place.</p>
<p>marcbl: You&#8217;re over 64? Good to have some older readers. And, actually, you might want to click on the first link in the post again and read the comments&#8211;specifically Eric Lease Morgan&#8217;s comment about Google and FedExing hard discs as a cheap, fast way to move large quantities of data. Sure, if you needed, say, one gigabyte the net is the way to go&#8211;but if what you need is, say, 500 Terabytes, shipping objects around starts to look pretty attractive. </p>
<p>(One reason why the U.S. probably isn&#8217;t going to have universal on-demand high-def &#8220;any movie or tv program you want, any time&#8221; real soon: Not only is most U.S. broadband far too slow for HD, the backbones don&#8217;t have the capacity for tens of millions of distinct 30mb/s streams. For certain purposes, broadcast and physical carriers still make lots of sense.)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 14:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for picking up the challenge to take this to the next level, Walt.  I discounted Tyvek sleeves and spindles because I was concerned about the potential for damage to the discs.  After all, the &quot;cost&quot; of retransmission (mostly in time) is so great when your transport layer is a cargo aircraft.  But, then again, if those techniques are good enough to ship new discs, they are probably good enough to ship written discs.  Geez -- to describe it like this makes one think we&#039;re actually taking this scheme seriously.

Very interesting to see that the bounding variable is weight and not volume!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for picking up the challenge to take this to the next level, Walt.  I discounted Tyvek sleeves and spindles because I was concerned about the potential for damage to the discs.  After all, the &#8220;cost&#8221; of retransmission (mostly in time) is so great when your transport layer is a cargo aircraft.  But, then again, if those techniques are good enough to ship new discs, they are probably good enough to ship written discs.  Geez &#8212; to describe it like this makes one think we&#8217;re actually taking this scheme seriously.</p>
<p>Very interesting to see that the bounding variable is weight and not volume!</p>
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		<title>By: marcbl</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 07:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[however, LATENCY is teh sux.

this is a real-time world, old man!  get with the frikken&#039; program!
(insults were meant as a joke.  i&#039;m older than thou!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>however, LATENCY is teh sux.</p>
<p>this is a real-time world, old man!  get with the frikken&#8217; program!<br />
(insults were meant as a joke.  i&#8217;m older than thou!)</p>
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