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		<title>By: Ivan Chew</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/02/no-offense-or-disrespect-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-42373</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Chew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[Scrambling to check how many times I&#039;ve used that in my posts, LOL]. Good observation there. Reminds me of some YouTube videos whose blurb says, &quot;I do not own any of this stuff; I&#039;m copying this and sharing it here for entertainment purposes. No copyright infringement intended&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Scrambling to check how many times I've used that in my posts, LOL]. Good observation there. Reminds me of some YouTube videos whose blurb says, &#8220;I do not own any of this stuff; I&#8217;m copying this and sharing it here for entertainment purposes. No copyright infringement intended&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/02/no-offense-or-disrespect-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-42352</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, another demonstration of the Comment Randomness Principle (&quot;you can never predict which posts, not involving birth, death, marriage or new jobs, will get lots of comments&quot;). 

Seth: I would note that you&#039;re using it &lt;b&gt;in conversation&lt;/b&gt;--not as an opening statement. The situation&#039;s a little different. (I could argue that you do, in a case like this, intend &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; disrespect...but maybe not.)

Now that we&#039;ve established that I can Draw Comments Like Crazy(TM), can I get the big ad bucks? (OK, so Scalzi gets dozens of times as many comments. But he&#039;s Scalzi.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, another demonstration of the Comment Randomness Principle (&#8220;you can never predict which posts, not involving birth, death, marriage or new jobs, will get lots of comments&#8221;). </p>
<p>Seth: I would note that you&#8217;re using it <b>in conversation</b>&#8211;not as an opening statement. The situation&#8217;s a little different. (I could argue that you do, in a case like this, intend <i>some</i> disrespect&#8230;but maybe not.)</p>
<p>Now that we&#8217;ve established that I can Draw Comments Like Crazy(TM), can I get the big ad bucks? (OK, so Scalzi gets dozens of times as many comments. But he&#8217;s Scalzi.)</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/02/no-offense-or-disrespect-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-42349</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course. I use those phrases with full awareness of the problem. I mean something like &quot;I *recognize* that this statement has an &lt;em&gt;implication&lt;/em&gt; which is offensive or disrespectful, but I do not &lt;em&gt;primarily intend&lt;/em&gt; that personal element&quot; (i.e. it exists, but isn&#039;t the &lt;em&gt;goal&lt;/em&gt;).

I deal with this a lot when I argue with blog-evangelists. I think many of them preach nonsense-on-stilts, and moreover there&#039;s significant financial incentive for them to do so - but saying  that can lead into a rhetorical trap:

Evangelist: &quot;Are you claiming I do THIS FOR THE MONEY? How dare you. That&#039;s so rude! ...&quot;

Me: &quot;Well,  &lt;em&gt;no disrespect intended&lt;/em&gt;,  but it is a fact that your entire income is based on selling this stuff.&quot;

If someone contends I should never mention that aspect, I disagree - I think those monetary aspects are very important in order to understand the driving forces involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. I use those phrases with full awareness of the problem. I mean something like &#8220;I *recognize* that this statement has an <em>implication</em> which is offensive or disrespectful, but I do not <em>primarily intend</em> that personal element&#8221; (i.e. it exists, but isn&#8217;t the <em>goal</em>).</p>
<p>I deal with this a lot when I argue with blog-evangelists. I think many of them preach nonsense-on-stilts, and moreover there&#8217;s significant financial incentive for them to do so &#8211; but saying  that can lead into a rhetorical trap:</p>
<p>Evangelist: &#8220;Are you claiming I do THIS FOR THE MONEY? How dare you. That&#8217;s so rude! &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Well,  <em>no disrespect intended</em>,  but it is a fact that your entire income is based on selling this stuff.&#8221;</p>
<p>If someone contends I should never mention that aspect, I disagree &#8211; I think those monetary aspects are very important in order to understand the driving forces involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/02/no-offense-or-disrespect-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-42336</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if it has to do with situation. I mean, if I thought I could get away with telling a boss, for instance, that he or she is indeed a contemptible ass, I would. So saying &quot;with all due respect&quot; can be a way of CYA, showing deference to the contemptible ass, so on. Then again, is it because more often than not a lot of people get easily offended over nothing? But yea, I have noticed that as well. You hear the phrase, you know something is coming. 

Best, and keep on blogging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if it has to do with situation. I mean, if I thought I could get away with telling a boss, for instance, that he or she is indeed a contemptible ass, I would. So saying &#8220;with all due respect&#8221; can be a way of CYA, showing deference to the contemptible ass, so on. Then again, is it because more often than not a lot of people get easily offended over nothing? But yea, I have noticed that as well. You hear the phrase, you know something is coming. </p>
<p>Best, and keep on blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Schafer</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/02/no-offense-or-disrespect-intended/comment-page-1/#comment-42334</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey Schafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve often wondered if people use this phrase b/c in their own heads, they cannot separate an idea from its creator...and assume the recipient cannot either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered if people use this phrase b/c in their own heads, they cannot separate an idea from its creator&#8230;and assume the recipient cannot either.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s so true. &quot;With all due respect&quot; typically means &quot;I think you are a contemptible ass.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s so true. &#8220;With all due respect&#8221; typically means &#8220;I think you are a contemptible ass.&#8221;</p>
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