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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42327</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert: I&#039;m not sure your comment belongs with this post, but: I&#039;ve downloaded Calibre (after looking at possibilities), and will give it a try, although working from either filtered HTML or PDF, since RTF would lose way too much of the markup. (The markup&#039;s not terribly complex, but it&#039;s a very long book...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: I&#8217;m not sure your comment belongs with this post, but: I&#8217;ve downloaded Calibre (after looking at possibilities), and will give it a try, although working from either filtered HTML or PDF, since RTF would lose way too much of the markup. (The markup&#8217;s not terribly complex, but it&#8217;s a very long book&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Slater</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42325</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walt,

Although the size (and apparent markup complexity :) of your document might toss in a few hiccups, I&#039;ve been having great success using a free ePub generator called Calibre. I convert everything to RTF before feeding it to Calibre (to, hopefully, strip out the worst Word/MS secpific garbage code). I do this because I hate all the default viewers for office documents on my droid, and the free epub reader I use makes reading long texts much easier!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>Although the size (and apparent markup complexity <img src='http://walt.lishost.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  of your document might toss in a few hiccups, I&#8217;ve been having great success using a free ePub generator called Calibre. I convert everything to RTF before feeding it to Calibre (to, hopefully, strip out the worst Word/MS secpific garbage code). I do this because I hate all the default viewers for office documents on my droid, and the free epub reader I use makes reading long texts much easier!</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42290</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve: While I certainly concede the first point, I wonder about the second. What I was doing in the post was market research of a sort--after all, there&#039;s little point in putting the essays together and doing even a nominal index if nobody&#039;s likely to download/read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: While I certainly concede the first point, I wonder about the second. What I was doing in the post was market research of a sort&#8211;after all, there&#8217;s little point in putting the essays together and doing even a nominal index if nobody&#8217;s likely to download/read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42288</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thinking about point number one above: fighty rants are fun to comment on and take sides on. 

Questions about &quot;should I do this project&quot; are less fun. Unless it&#039;s something about which I have already thought &quot;I wish someone would do X,&quot; I would probably stay out of it--if you don&#039;t feel strong enough about it to just do it, why should I try and talk you into it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking about point number one above: fighty rants are fun to comment on and take sides on. </p>
<p>Questions about &#8220;should I do this project&#8221; are less fun. Unless it&#8217;s something about which I have already thought &#8220;I wish someone would do X,&#8221; I would probably stay out of it&#8211;if you don&#8217;t feel strong enough about it to just do it, why should I try and talk you into it?</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42253</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks all--and I find two interesting contrasts. Not sure what to make of either of them:

1. &lt;a href=&quot;http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/new-oa-related-question-and-status-report/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The previous post&lt;/a&gt; (on a possible OA book), something I really care about and consider potentially important, has received one comment to date. This relatively trivial rant has received a bunch...

2. Comments here have been mostly supportive (which, admittedly, is common for blog comments). The thread on FriendFeed...well, not so much. 

Oh, by the way, I&#039;m pretty sure my mother never said that. My parents were very strong on leading by example, and (as far as I can remember) very light on explicit advice of that sort. Maybe because I was the &quot;bonus child,&quot; nine years after my brother, five years after my sister? My sense, even from an early age, was that they trusted me to be at least moderately rational in decisions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all&#8211;and I find two interesting contrasts. Not sure what to make of either of them:</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/new-oa-related-question-and-status-report/" rel="nofollow">The previous post</a> (on a possible OA book), something I really care about and consider potentially important, has received one comment to date. This relatively trivial rant has received a bunch&#8230;</p>
<p>2. Comments here have been mostly supportive (which, admittedly, is common for blog comments). The thread on FriendFeed&#8230;well, not so much. </p>
<p>Oh, by the way, I&#8217;m pretty sure my mother never said that. My parents were very strong on leading by example, and (as far as I can remember) very light on explicit advice of that sort. Maybe because I was the &#8220;bonus child,&#8221; nine years after my brother, five years after my sister? My sense, even from an early age, was that they trusted me to be at least moderately rational in decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Golrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Golrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walt,

Let me chime in with those of us who respect you (and are also fans), and say (with a little humor), you are absolutely right!

In another life I often worked with teens, and I would use this statement: I never use absolutes. What does that do? Well, in addition to being a humorous oxymoron, it gets us to think about how we use the phrase &quot;everybody does....&quot; I want to know whose mother *never* said &quot;Well, if everybody [or all your friends] jumped off a cliff, would you too?&quot;

Thanks for helping to keep us both thinking and honest in what we say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>Let me chime in with those of us who respect you (and are also fans), and say (with a little humor), you are absolutely right!</p>
<p>In another life I often worked with teens, and I would use this statement: I never use absolutes. What does that do? Well, in addition to being a humorous oxymoron, it gets us to think about how we use the phrase &#8220;everybody does&#8230;.&#8221; I want to know whose mother *never* said &#8220;Well, if everybody [or all your friends] jumped off a cliff, would you too?&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for helping to keep us both thinking and honest in what we say.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42247</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm ... let me put it this way ... I think it&#039;s sometimes better to address the ideas behind a hyperbolic or poetic-license statement, rather than to stress it&#039;s not literally true.

Case in point: I often get grief if I say something  like &quot;Why should I bother to write a well-researched blog post on [whatever] - NOBODY WILL READ IT!&quot;. Now, I know very well that the number of readers will not be absolute zero. The statement really means something like &quot;The number of readers will very very low, and thus the post will have an inconsequential effect which will not justify the time and energy involved&quot;. So why don&#039;t I say that? Because I think it loses some vital emotional tone of the former version, even if the latter is more accurate.

Basically, universalism CAN BE shorthand or misleading or puffery, etc. But I think never using them is too constraining, per above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8230; let me put it this way &#8230; I think it&#8217;s sometimes better to address the ideas behind a hyperbolic or poetic-license statement, rather than to stress it&#8217;s not literally true.</p>
<p>Case in point: I often get grief if I say something  like &#8220;Why should I bother to write a well-researched blog post on [whatever] &#8211; NOBODY WILL READ IT!&#8221;. Now, I know very well that the number of readers will not be absolute zero. The statement really means something like &#8220;The number of readers will very very low, and thus the post will have an inconsequential effect which will not justify the time and energy involved&#8221;. So why don&#8217;t I say that? Because I think it loses some vital emotional tone of the former version, even if the latter is more accurate.</p>
<p>Basically, universalism CAN BE shorthand or misleading or puffery, etc. But I think never using them is too constraining, per above.</p>
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		<title>By: GeekChic</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42245</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekChic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m happy to be considered a fool (even an old fool) on this subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to be considered a fool (even an old fool) on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Anne</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42242</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, what the heck.  Let&#039;s all be old together!!

Thank you for writing this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, what the heck.  Let&#8217;s all be old together!!</p>
<p>Thank you for writing this.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2010/01/universalisms-hype-and-straw-men/comment-page-1/#comment-42237</link>
		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sloppy -- deliberate.  Jobs is no fool, he knows who his target market is and how to pander to them.  &quot;Everyone has a smartphone&quot; means &quot;everyone as hip and attractive as YOU has a smartphone, O valued cult member&quot;.  

People like Walt (and me) who find that off-putting were never going to buy an iPhone anyway, so Jobs doesn&#039;t give a shit about us.  

Eh.  Maybe I&#039;m just old, too.

(Disclaimers: I like Mac OS but use Windows because I can&#039;t afford the money for a Mac or the time for a Linux machine.  I do have an iPod, a friend gave me his old one and I like it so much I&#039;d probably replace it if it broke.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sloppy &#8212; deliberate.  Jobs is no fool, he knows who his target market is and how to pander to them.  &#8220;Everyone has a smartphone&#8221; means &#8220;everyone as hip and attractive as YOU has a smartphone, O valued cult member&#8221;.  </p>
<p>People like Walt (and me) who find that off-putting were never going to buy an iPhone anyway, so Jobs doesn&#8217;t give a shit about us.  </p>
<p>Eh.  Maybe I&#8217;m just old, too.</p>
<p>(Disclaimers: I like Mac OS but use Windows because I can&#8217;t afford the money for a Mac or the time for a Linux machine.  I do have an iPod, a friend gave me his old one and I like it so much I&#8217;d probably replace it if it broke.)</p>
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