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	<title>Comments on: LITA IG plans and other failures</title>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2009/07/lita-ig-plans-and-other-failures/comment-page-1/#comment-38946</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Irene,

That&#039;s great--but I&#039;m not the one you should be volunteering to. I&#039;m not even sure who *should* be working on this--only that it isn&#039;t me, not any longer. 

(I don&#039;t think you &quot;crashed LITA bloggers Sunday night&quot;--at least not if you were at the OCLC Bloggers Salon. That&#039;s not LITA, and I don&#039;t think it would be considered crashing anyway...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Irene,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great&#8211;but I&#8217;m not the one you should be volunteering to. I&#8217;m not even sure who *should* be working on this&#8211;only that it isn&#8217;t me, not any longer. </p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t think you &#8220;crashed LITA bloggers Sunday night&#8221;&#8211;at least not if you were at the OCLC Bloggers Salon. That&#8217;s not LITA, and I don&#8217;t think it would be considered crashing anyway&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Irene Iwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irene Iwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walt,
I totally agree and volunteer to help get out news in the future if you&#039;d like. I am a member of LITA and didn&#039;t feel engaged in Chicago (except when I crashed LITA bloggers Sunday night). As using computers is cited in the news as the number one reason people are swarming to public libraries we should agressively embrace all librarians involved in LIT.
Irene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walt,<br />
I totally agree and volunteer to help get out news in the future if you&#8217;d like. I am a member of LITA and didn&#8217;t feel engaged in Chicago (except when I crashed LITA bloggers Sunday night). As using computers is cited in the news as the number one reason people are swarming to public libraries we should agressively embrace all librarians involved in LIT.<br />
Irene</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura,

In the case of LITA Interest Groups, that can&#039;t happen--at least not for very long. At least when IGs were established (when LITA reorganized itself, got rid of Sections, and got rid of most of its appointed committees), they had to be established by petition and the petition needed to be renewed every three years, a &quot;sunset clause&quot; so that no-longer-interesting IGs would just disappear. They&#039;re also entirely self-governing: No appointments, no real place for &quot;puppets.&quot;

I think the renewal process may have changed, but the fundamental idea is still there and, I think, still sound. And, discouraged as I may be by LITA, it definitely does not have a bloated committee structure--it&#039;s been known to change committees to IGs (which can then disappear). Actually, that&#039;s been one of the complaints from some quarters: LITA doesn&#039;t have enough appointive positions for people who only get funded for conferences if they&#039;re holding an appointive position.

The problem isn&#039;t interest; the problem is communication--and interest in adding members.

(If you look at the LITA page, the list of &quot;Inactive interest groups&quot;--0nes that haven&#039;t renewed--is almost as long as the list of current ones, and I believe there are some IGs that predate that list.)

It may be worth noting that IGs in LITA are different from Discussion Groups in most other divisions (I think one other division has now gone to a self-governing-IG structure) in some ways: They can propose programs and ask for budgets, where DGs can normally only discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura,</p>
<p>In the case of LITA Interest Groups, that can&#8217;t happen&#8211;at least not for very long. At least when IGs were established (when LITA reorganized itself, got rid of Sections, and got rid of most of its appointed committees), they had to be established by petition and the petition needed to be renewed every three years, a &#8220;sunset clause&#8221; so that no-longer-interesting IGs would just disappear. They&#8217;re also entirely self-governing: No appointments, no real place for &#8220;puppets.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the renewal process may have changed, but the fundamental idea is still there and, I think, still sound. And, discouraged as I may be by LITA, it definitely does not have a bloated committee structure&#8211;it&#8217;s been known to change committees to IGs (which can then disappear). Actually, that&#8217;s been one of the complaints from some quarters: LITA doesn&#8217;t have enough appointive positions for people who only get funded for conferences if they&#8217;re holding an appointive position.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t interest; the problem is communication&#8211;and interest in adding members.</p>
<p>(If you look at the LITA page, the list of &#8220;Inactive interest groups&#8221;&#8211;0nes that haven&#8217;t renewed&#8211;is almost as long as the list of current ones, and I believe there are some IGs that predate that list.)</p>
<p>It may be worth noting that IGs in LITA are different from Discussion Groups in most other divisions (I think one other division has now gone to a self-governing-IG structure) in some ways: They can propose programs and ask for budgets, where DGs can normally only discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the sort of thing that makes me wonder if all these committees and interest groups are really even necessary or of interest to anyone. My extremely minimal experience with ALA (none of it with LITA) suggests to me that there&#039;s a lot of bloat -- a lot of committees that exist just so that people can be on committees, just as a lot of journals exist just so that people can publish in journals. I&#039;m not a fan of participating in puppet governments or puppet bureaucracies, and your description above very much makes LITA IGs sound like the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the sort of thing that makes me wonder if all these committees and interest groups are really even necessary or of interest to anyone. My extremely minimal experience with ALA (none of it with LITA) suggests to me that there&#8217;s a lot of bloat &#8212; a lot of committees that exist just so that people can be on committees, just as a lot of journals exist just so that people can publish in journals. I&#8217;m not a fan of participating in puppet governments or puppet bureaucracies, and your description above very much makes LITA IGs sound like the latter.</p>
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