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		<title>By: daben2</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2007/04/five-blogger-heroes-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-28458</link>
		<dc:creator>daben2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good:Dorothea, I think most of us did, which is why I?m not uncomfortable this time around. And it?s an odd sort of clique formation, given the extent to which it?s broadened visibility (or raised visibility for a broader range of good people) rather than focusing on the same few people over and over again?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good:Dorothea, I think most of us did, which is why I?m not uncomfortable this time around. And it?s an odd sort of clique formation, given the extent to which it?s broadened visibility (or raised visibility for a broader range of good people) rather than focusing on the same few people over and over again?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julian, 

This is why I put Sarah Houghton-Jan on my list of heroines; when I met her, I approached her as someone she&#039;d never heard of, complimented her on her blog, and she didn&#039;t make me feel like a groupie loser. Other bloggers I met at Internet Librarian 2005 were similar. I&#039;d hope we (human beings, as much as bloggers) could all be so gracious.

This whole thing can feel a bit &quot;clubby,&quot; and I can understand if some people are put off by that. But, as you say, it is a large and diverse club. Perhaps even large and diverse enough to include the non-bloggers. :)

Remember (we should all remember) Aaron Schmidt&#039;s presentation slide, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/wanderingeyre/281727456/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No one cares that you have a blog&lt;/a&gt;. I expect that no one would care (or &quot;mind,&quot; to put it more kindly) that you &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; have a blog.

- Bozo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, </p>
<p>This is why I put Sarah Houghton-Jan on my list of heroines; when I met her, I approached her as someone she&#8217;d never heard of, complimented her on her blog, and she didn&#8217;t make me feel like a groupie loser. Other bloggers I met at Internet Librarian 2005 were similar. I&#8217;d hope we (human beings, as much as bloggers) could all be so gracious.</p>
<p>This whole thing can feel a bit &#8220;clubby,&#8221; and I can understand if some people are put off by that. But, as you say, it is a large and diverse club. Perhaps even large and diverse enough to include the non-bloggers. <img src='http://walt.lishost.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Remember (we should all remember) Aaron Schmidt&#8217;s presentation slide, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/wanderingeyre/281727456/" rel="nofollow">No one cares that you have a blog</a>. I expect that no one would care (or &#8220;mind,&#8221; to put it more kindly) that you <em>don&#8217;t</em> have a blog.</p>
<p>- Bozo</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2007/04/five-blogger-heroes-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-27261</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julian, welcome: 

&quot;However, Iâ€™m too scared to meet any of these great people in person (unless I met them completely outside of the context of the biblioblogosphere) because I didnâ€™t join the club (a very large and diverse club, too) on the ground floor.&quot;

As the Firesign Theater said, &quot;I think we&#039;re all bozos on this bus.&quot; No reason to be afraid of anyone who blogs any more than you&#039;d be afraid of anyone who doesn&#039;t (and I learned long ago that there was no reason to be afraid of anyone in libraryland--although maybe I&#039;d have gone further if I learned proper awe and deference!) 

I&#039;d go the other way: If anyone in blogland strikes you as Too Important to meet, that may be a good reason to ignore them...

And as for being late to the party, well, this blog is just barely over two years old. Started mostly as a lark (and comment on an unfortunate Gorman generalization)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, welcome: </p>
<p>&#8220;However, Iâ€™m too scared to meet any of these great people in person (unless I met them completely outside of the context of the biblioblogosphere) because I didnâ€™t join the club (a very large and diverse club, too) on the ground floor.&#8221;</p>
<p>As the Firesign Theater said, &#8220;I think we&#8217;re all bozos on this bus.&#8221; No reason to be afraid of anyone who blogs any more than you&#8217;d be afraid of anyone who doesn&#8217;t (and I learned long ago that there was no reason to be afraid of anyone in libraryland&#8211;although maybe I&#8217;d have gone further if I learned proper awe and deference!) </p>
<p>I&#8217;d go the other way: If anyone in blogland strikes you as Too Important to meet, that may be a good reason to ignore them&#8230;</p>
<p>And as for being late to the party, well, this blog is just barely over two years old. Started mostly as a lark (and comment on an unfortunate Gorman generalization)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry I&#039;m late to the party (as always). Hence, I don&#039;t expect for this to be read by many. I have thought about this week&#039;s major topic in the biblioblogosphere (even though the blogs mentioned in this theme didn&#039;t have to be specific to our profession) very deeply. Walt wrote the definitive book on why I don&#039;t have my own blog... and the book had very little to do with blogging. In order to blog, I&#039;d have to have something to say, and my lack of original content, as well as purpose and appropriate context for said content, means that I can&#039;t measure up to those who have such content. The theme at hand here made blogging an even more distant dream for me. I&#039;m saying all of this even after reading the March 2007 issue of American Libraries. I would compare it to being the twelfth player on the bench of the Cleveland Cavaliers -- being on the same team as LeBron James, but feeling like you&#039;re not good enough to be mentioned in the same media guide as him. Or maybe being a running back on the practice squad for the San Diego Chargers, knowing that you have absolutely no chance to get a touch in an NFL game as long as LaDainian Tomlinson continues to be the second coming of Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Jim Brown combined.

I read and subscribe to most of the blogs mentioned in this theme. I even comment on them, just as I&#039;m doing here. I&#039;m a bit guilty of not reading everyone&#039;s work. However, I&#039;m too scared to meet any of these great people in person (unless I met them completely outside of the context of the biblioblogosphere) because I didn&#039;t join the club (a very large and diverse club, too) on the ground floor. I will face my first true test of this soon. I&#039;m just afraid of the embarrassment of not having a blog of my own (&quot;WHAT??!?!?! You don&#039;t have a blog?&quot;) -- and, for today, not having one by choice.

Personally, I couldn&#039;t limit my list to five. It would have to include every liblog in existence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I&#8217;m late to the party (as always). Hence, I don&#8217;t expect for this to be read by many. I have thought about this week&#8217;s major topic in the biblioblogosphere (even though the blogs mentioned in this theme didn&#8217;t have to be specific to our profession) very deeply. Walt wrote the definitive book on why I don&#8217;t have my own blog&#8230; and the book had very little to do with blogging. In order to blog, I&#8217;d have to have something to say, and my lack of original content, as well as purpose and appropriate context for said content, means that I can&#8217;t measure up to those who have such content. The theme at hand here made blogging an even more distant dream for me. I&#8217;m saying all of this even after reading the March 2007 issue of American Libraries. I would compare it to being the twelfth player on the bench of the Cleveland Cavaliers &#8212; being on the same team as LeBron James, but feeling like you&#8217;re not good enough to be mentioned in the same media guide as him. Or maybe being a running back on the practice squad for the San Diego Chargers, knowing that you have absolutely no chance to get a touch in an NFL game as long as LaDainian Tomlinson continues to be the second coming of Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and Jim Brown combined.</p>
<p>I read and subscribe to most of the blogs mentioned in this theme. I even comment on them, just as I&#8217;m doing here. I&#8217;m a bit guilty of not reading everyone&#8217;s work. However, I&#8217;m too scared to meet any of these great people in person (unless I met them completely outside of the context of the biblioblogosphere) because I didn&#8217;t join the club (a very large and diverse club, too) on the ground floor. I will face my first true test of this soon. I&#8217;m just afraid of the embarrassment of not having a blog of my own (&#8220;WHAT??!?!?! You don&#8217;t have a blog?&#8221;) &#8212; and, for today, not having one by choice.</p>
<p>Personally, I couldn&#8217;t limit my list to five. It would have to include every liblog in existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Beth Sancomb-Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Beth Sancomb-Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for the mention!  I&#039;m pleased and honored....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for the mention!  I&#8217;m pleased and honored&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2007/04/five-blogger-heroes-sort-of/comment-page-1/#comment-27237</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dorothea, I think most of us did, which is why I&#039;m not uncomfortable this time around. And it&#039;s an odd sort of clique formation, given the extent to which it&#039;s broadened visibility (or raised visibility for a broader range of good people) rather than focusing on the same few people over and over again...

&lt;b&gt;Updated: &lt;/b&gt; The more I think about it and think about the variety of responses to this [th]]m]&#124;eme, the more my answer to the &quot;clique formation&quot; comment is, well, &lt;b&gt;Bull.&lt;/b&gt; The responses have been varied, not a hall of mirrors; people have taken the idea in different directions; if there&#039;s one common theme, it&#039;s &quot;people who encourage me to think.&quot; The fact that some of us choose, sometimes, to say &quot;Thanks&quot; for being named isn&#039;t clique formation, it&#039;s gratitude. (Mary Beth: You&#039;re welcome. All of you: Keep writing things that make me think and rethink...)

As to Henriette...sure. I was one of RLG&#039;s liaisons to the umbrella group that included MARBI (but met quarterly for a while) from 1980 through 1987, as well as being a MARBI member 1985-1987. I chatted with Henriette Avram a few times during those years, and later at ALA. (We did at one point discuss MARC for Library Use--which we both agreed *should* have been written by someone at LC, but that was never going to happen...)

Believe it or not, I had a brief conversation with Admiral Grace Hopper once, at the only National Computer Conference I ever attended... but that was years earlier and really counted as a chance encounter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothea, I think most of us did, which is why I&#8217;m not uncomfortable this time around. And it&#8217;s an odd sort of clique formation, given the extent to which it&#8217;s broadened visibility (or raised visibility for a broader range of good people) rather than focusing on the same few people over and over again&#8230;</p>
<p><b>Updated: </b> The more I think about it and think about the variety of responses to this [th]]m]|eme, the more my answer to the &#8220;clique formation&#8221; comment is, well, <b>Bull.</b> The responses have been varied, not a hall of mirrors; people have taken the idea in different directions; if there&#8217;s one common theme, it&#8217;s &#8220;people who encourage me to think.&#8221; The fact that some of us choose, sometimes, to say &#8220;Thanks&#8221; for being named isn&#8217;t clique formation, it&#8217;s gratitude. (Mary Beth: You&#8217;re welcome. All of you: Keep writing things that make me think and rethink&#8230;)</p>
<p>As to Henriette&#8230;sure. I was one of RLG&#8217;s liaisons to the umbrella group that included MARBI (but met quarterly for a while) from 1980 through 1987, as well as being a MARBI member 1985-1987. I chatted with Henriette Avram a few times during those years, and later at ALA. (We did at one point discuss MARC for Library Use&#8211;which we both agreed *should* have been written by someone at LC, but that was never going to happen&#8230;)</p>
<p>Believe it or not, I had a brief conversation with Admiral Grace Hopper once, at the only National Computer Conference I ever attended&#8230; but that was years earlier and really counted as a chance encounter.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothea Salo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothea Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You got to talk to Henriette Avram?

*hero-worship*

Yes, Walt, on Twitter somebody snarked that this was a schoolyard exercise in clique formation, but -- whatever. I said my piece honestly, with zero intent to suck up or exclude, and I believe the others I&#039;ve read did so as well, and that&#039;s good enough for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got to talk to Henriette Avram?</p>
<p>*hero-worship*</p>
<p>Yes, Walt, on Twitter somebody snarked that this was a schoolyard exercise in clique formation, but &#8212; whatever. I said my piece honestly, with zero intent to suck up or exclude, and I believe the others I&#8217;ve read did so as well, and that&#8217;s good enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! you take a weekend off from the blogosphere, and look what happens...Seriously, I&#039;m flattered to be included in such company--and thanks for tipping me off to a few new blogs! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! you take a weekend off from the blogosphere, and look what happens&#8230;Seriously, I&#8217;m flattered to be included in such company&#8211;and thanks for tipping me off to a few new blogs! <img src='http://walt.lishost.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that I&#039;ve scanned blogs (and commented at Mark&#039;s, twice, since I managed to delete the first draft)...

I haven&#039;t commented at each blog that directly or indirectly mentioned me, but you all have my appreciation: Call this a general &quot;Thanks!&quot;

jennimi and some others are making this a better [th]&#124;[m]eme than I&#039;d hoped by going off in different directions. Great.

I see enough to remind me how important the &quot;other channels&quot; are--not only face-to-face meetings (any of you going to be at Washington Library Association?) but also emails etc. Yes, I have responded to emails from people who might have been surprised--and sent email to say things to people that didn&#039;t need to be said as comments. I&#039;ll try to keep doing that; as far as I&#039;m concerned, this is a field of equals, and I&#039;d like to keep it that way.

(That is: I see no reason to believe that I&#039;m &quot;better&quot; in any sense than a brand-new librarian, MLS student, or other library person who I&#039;ve never heard of--but I also see no reason to believe that anybody in the field is &quot;better&quot; than I am. If I&#039;m willing to converse with Clifford Lynch or George Needham or Henriette Avram as an equal, why wouldn&#039;t I be willing to converse with anybody who&#039;s not being vicious or spamming me as an equal?)

And now off to do some other things...I would say that all this mutual good will could be too much, but that&#039;s the old curmudgeon speaking up, and I&#039;d like to think I&#039;m younger than that now. (Just as you can&#039;t escape Monty Python and Star Trek, you can&#039;t entirely escape Bob Dylan either. Nor would I want to...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;ve scanned blogs (and commented at Mark&#8217;s, twice, since I managed to delete the first draft)&#8230;</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t commented at each blog that directly or indirectly mentioned me, but you all have my appreciation: Call this a general &#8220;Thanks!&#8221;</p>
<p>jennimi and some others are making this a better [th]|[m]eme than I&#8217;d hoped by going off in different directions. Great.</p>
<p>I see enough to remind me how important the &#8220;other channels&#8221; are&#8211;not only face-to-face meetings (any of you going to be at Washington Library Association?) but also emails etc. Yes, I have responded to emails from people who might have been surprised&#8211;and sent email to say things to people that didn&#8217;t need to be said as comments. I&#8217;ll try to keep doing that; as far as I&#8217;m concerned, this is a field of equals, and I&#8217;d like to keep it that way.</p>
<p>(That is: I see no reason to believe that I&#8217;m &#8220;better&#8221; in any sense than a brand-new librarian, MLS student, or other library person who I&#8217;ve never heard of&#8211;but I also see no reason to believe that anybody in the field is &#8220;better&#8221; than I am. If I&#8217;m willing to converse with Clifford Lynch or George Needham or Henriette Avram as an equal, why wouldn&#8217;t I be willing to converse with anybody who&#8217;s not being vicious or spamming me as an equal?)</p>
<p>And now off to do some other things&#8230;I would say that all this mutual good will could be too much, but that&#8217;s the old curmudgeon speaking up, and I&#8217;d like to think I&#8217;m younger than that now. (Just as you can&#8217;t escape Monty Python and Star Trek, you can&#8217;t entirely escape Bob Dylan either. Nor would I want to&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just discovered jennimi&#039;s blog a few weeks ago on the librarianbloggers ning.  I agree, she&#039;s got a great voice and inspires contemplation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered jennimi&#8217;s blog a few weeks ago on the librarianbloggers ning.  I agree, she&#8217;s got a great voice and inspires contemplation.</p>
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