Comments on: COPA and unintended consequences http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/ The library voice of the radical middle Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:32:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: walt http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26728 walt Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:59:02 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26728 Isn't it funny how intelligent writing on censorware gets blocked by censorware? Gee, who would guess? Isn’t it funny how intelligent writing on censorware gets blocked by censorware? Gee, who would guess?

]]> By: Blake http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26723 Blake Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:57:18 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26723 "For example, read http://sethf.com/anticensorware/history/sims-liberties.php" I'd love to except I'm at work now and the filters have it blocked! Irony with my donuts on Friday morning “For example, read
http://sethf.com/anticensorware/history/sims-liberties.php”

I’d love to except I’m at work now and the filters have it blocked! Irony with my donuts on Friday morning

]]> By: walt http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26710 walt Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:51:45 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26710 Sorry. Corrected. Sorry. Corrected.

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26709 Seth Finkelstein Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:48:16 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26709 Note that post is not written by me! (that's another story ... a very long story ...) Note that post is not written by me! (that’s another story … a very long story …)

]]> By: walt http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26708 walt Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:40:39 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26708 "I think it’s loading too much on the little PowerPoint slide to expect it to carry such a heavy weight of nuance." <strong>Absolutely.</strong> But it sure does look, um, absolute and lacking in nuance--even with the audio behind it. One more reason I don't use PPT. (Of course, I don't speak much lately either.) [I read the stuff at the link. I was aware of most but not all of it. Rarely have <strike>a</strike> I seen a strawman quite as classic as the one <strike>you quote</strike>quoted in the post! ] “I think it’s loading too much on the little PowerPoint slide to expect it to carry such a heavy weight of nuance.”

Absolutely. But it sure does look, um, absolute and lacking in nuance–even with the audio behind it.

One more reason I don’t use PPT. (Of course, I don’t speak much lately either.)

[I read the stuff at the link. I was aware of most but not all of it. Rarely have a I seen a strawman quite as classic as the one you quotequoted in the post! ]

]]> By: Seth Finkelstein http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26707 Seth Finkelstein Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:23:19 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26707 I earlier sent Lessig email with some extensive thoughts. I'll probably pass on a detailed comment conversation. I can say things in private email about matters of history and free-speech politics that would be dangerous to put in a public comment posting. I think it's loading too much on the little PowerPoint slide to expect it to carry such a heavy weight of nuance. The private/public argument has a very, very, deep history. It's not hard, if you understand the framework, but it is sometimes counter-intuitive. For example, read <a href="http://sethf.com/anticensorware/history/sims-liberties.php" rel="nofollow"> http://sethf.com/anticensorware/history/sims-liberties.php</a> That's historical, some of positions mentioned there have changed since it was written, many bits have flowed over the net. But it does give a flavor of the contentions. I earlier sent Lessig email with some extensive thoughts. I’ll probably pass on a detailed comment conversation. I can say things in private email about matters of history and free-speech politics that would be dangerous to put in a public comment posting.

I think it’s loading too much on the little PowerPoint slide to expect it to carry such a heavy weight of nuance.

The private/public argument has a very, very, deep history. It’s not hard, if you understand the framework, but it is sometimes counter-intuitive.

For example, read
http://sethf.com/anticensorware/history/sims-liberties.php

That’s historical, some of positions mentioned there have changed since it was written, many bits have flowed over the net. But it does give a flavor of the contentions.

]]> By: walt http://walt.lishost.org/2007/03/copa-and-unintended-consequences/#comment-26706 walt Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:55:10 +0000 http://walt.lishost.org/?p=503#comment-26706 A clarification on the footnote. Not wanting to have a tombstone has nothing to do with wanting to live forever--which I don't. A clarification on the footnote. Not wanting to have a tombstone has nothing to do with wanting to live forever–which I don’t.

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