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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-20600</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it would be awesome if someone would deconstruct that manifesto with a high degree of granularity in order to ascertain its functionality for a broad spectrum of end users. . . I&#039;d do it myself, if only that didn&#039;t involve reading it.

Anyway, your comment is one of the best laughs I&#039;ve had in some time.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be awesome if someone would deconstruct that manifesto with a high degree of granularity in order to ascertain its functionality for a broad spectrum of end users. . . I&#8217;d do it myself, if only that didn&#8217;t involve reading it.</p>
<p>Anyway, your comment is one of the best laughs I&#8217;ve had in some time.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-20492</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;â€œCluetrainâ€

*vomits on keyboard*

No arguments from me on the usefulness/definition of &quot;blog.&quot; I think that some members of her faculty didn&#039;t associate &quot;blog&quot; with &quot;content management system&quot; but with &quot;inappropriately personal rantings of a egomaniac,&quot; and so never even clicked through to see that her blog was professional and relevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;â€œCluetrainâ€</p>
<p>*vomits on keyboard*</p>
<p>No arguments from me on the usefulness/definition of &#8220;blog.&#8221; I think that some members of her faculty didn&#8217;t associate &#8220;blog&#8221; with &#8220;content management system&#8221; but with &#8220;inappropriately personal rantings of a egomaniac,&#8221; and so never even clicked through to see that her blog was professional and relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-20475</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm. &quot;Cluetrain&quot; is a bugaboo with me because it relates to a manifesto that&#039;s been uncritically touted, with loads of universalisms in place, many of them no truer than most universalisms. [As you know, I don&#039;t cotton to manifestos anyway.] Someone should (ahem) deconstruct it (sorry), with a high degree of (ahem) granularity, to see how many of the points really have much (cough-cough) functionality for a majority of real-world cases. Now that that&#039;s out of the way...

I have nothing against neologisms that actually say something new. I started out believing that &quot;mashup&quot; didn&#039;t say anything new, at least as it relates to software. Now? I&#039;m not sure.

&quot;Blog&quot;/&quot;weblog&quot; is a nice compact term for a lightweight web content management system that typically presents items in reverse chronological order (&quot;frequently updated&quot; and &quot;library news&quot; are both aspects of some blogs, but certainly not most). As such, it&#039;s distnctly useful. It gets messy when advocates assert that &quot;it isn&#039;t a blog unless [x]&quot;, where [x] could be &quot;it supports comments&quot; or &quot;it&#039;s updated frequently&quot; or &quot;every post includes hyperlinks&quot; or some other specious narrowing of the tool&#039;s definitions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. &#8220;Cluetrain&#8221; is a bugaboo with me because it relates to a manifesto that&#8217;s been uncritically touted, with loads of universalisms in place, many of them no truer than most universalisms. [As you know, I don't cotton to manifestos anyway.] Someone should (ahem) deconstruct it (sorry), with a high degree of (ahem) granularity, to see how many of the points really have much (cough-cough) functionality for a majority of real-world cases. Now that that&#8217;s out of the way&#8230;</p>
<p>I have nothing against neologisms that actually say something new. I started out believing that &#8220;mashup&#8221; didn&#8217;t say anything new, at least as it relates to software. Now? I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>&#8220;Blog&#8221;/&#8221;weblog&#8221; is a nice compact term for a lightweight web content management system that typically presents items in reverse chronological order (&#8220;frequently updated&#8221; and &#8220;library news&#8221; are both aspects of some blogs, but certainly not most). As such, it&#8217;s distnctly useful. It gets messy when advocates assert that &#8220;it isn&#8217;t a blog unless [x]&#8220;, where [x] could be &#8220;it supports comments&#8221; or &#8220;it&#8217;s updated frequently&#8221; or &#8220;every post includes hyperlinks&#8221; or some other specious narrowing of the tool&#8217;s definitions.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-20366</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walt, just to show that I have my problems with certain words, too,  I&#039;ll just go ahead and say that if I read the word &quot;cluetrain&quot; again I may just throw up right on the keyboard (don&#039;t think I have ever actually read it in print!). Something about the word &quot;functionality&quot; has never sat right. And it took me a while to come around to &quot;granularity,&quot; but just this week I was trying to convince a co-worker that it is a useful and meaningful word, not just a buzzword.

I&#039;m glad you wrote the original post. I guess I have a relatively high tolerance for nelogisms, so it is nice to be reminded that many people don&#039;t, or that they have extra associations with a word that I don&#039;t have. I remember Kris Johnson saying in her presentation for Higher Ed Blog Con that some of her faculty reacted very negatively to her library news blog simply because she called it a &quot;blog.&quot; If she had called it a &quot;reverse-chronological, frequently-updated, library news website,&quot; they probably wouldn&#039;t have had any problem with it.

Hmm. Other verbicides? &quot;Deconstruct,&quot; now used to mean &quot;analyze&quot; drives me bats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt, just to show that I have my problems with certain words, too,  I&#8217;ll just go ahead and say that if I read the word &#8220;cluetrain&#8221; again I may just throw up right on the keyboard (don&#8217;t think I have ever actually read it in print!). Something about the word &#8220;functionality&#8221; has never sat right. And it took me a while to come around to &#8220;granularity,&#8221; but just this week I was trying to convince a co-worker that it is a useful and meaningful word, not just a buzzword.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you wrote the original post. I guess I have a relatively high tolerance for nelogisms, so it is nice to be reminded that many people don&#8217;t, or that they have extra associations with a word that I don&#8217;t have. I remember Kris Johnson saying in her presentation for Higher Ed Blog Con that some of her faculty reacted very negatively to her library news blog simply because she called it a &#8220;blog.&#8221; If she had called it a &#8220;reverse-chronological, frequently-updated, library news website,&#8221; they probably wouldn&#8217;t have had any problem with it.</p>
<p>Hmm. Other verbicides? &#8220;Deconstruct,&#8221; now used to mean &#8220;analyze&#8221; drives me bats.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-20193</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome, Laura! (Sorry, I couldn&#039;t resist.)

OK, I&#039;m convinced. &quot;Mashup&quot; has a legitimately distinct meaning in Web2.0 terms. So much for offhand Saturday morning posts...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, Laura! (Sorry, I couldn&#8217;t resist.)</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m convinced. &#8220;Mashup&#8221; has a legitimately distinct meaning in Web2.0 terms. So much for offhand Saturday morning posts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-19996</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I frequently want to copy edit people&#039;s blog posts (and I am contemplating a long letter to ALA Editions about one of their tomes that I&#039;m currently reading), but I would nevertheless like to put in a word for the term &quot;mashup.&quot;  I first heard it used to refer to music, as Steve did.  As he notes, some musical mashups are great, and some are, well, mush.  I think the same is true of web mashups, and that may well be part of why I like the term--it resonates for me.

But I have, in general, far more sympathy for neologism than I do for what CS Lewis called &quot;verbicide&quot; in &lt;a href=&quot;http://worldcat.org/oclc/318606&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Studies in Words&lt;/a&gt;--murdering a word, often by inflating its meaning.  &quot;Awesome&quot; is the classic late 20th century verbicide; &quot;aggravating&quot; is another.  I&#039;m on the verge of giving up on my insistence that &quot;impact&quot; is not a verb, but I&#039;m not quite there yet. . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I frequently want to copy edit people&#8217;s blog posts (and I am contemplating a long letter to ALA Editions about one of their tomes that I&#8217;m currently reading), but I would nevertheless like to put in a word for the term &#8220;mashup.&#8221;  I first heard it used to refer to music, as Steve did.  As he notes, some musical mashups are great, and some are, well, mush.  I think the same is true of web mashups, and that may well be part of why I like the term&#8211;it resonates for me.</p>
<p>But I have, in general, far more sympathy for neologism than I do for what CS Lewis called &#8220;verbicide&#8221; in <a href="http://worldcat.org/oclc/318606" rel="nofollow">Studies in Words</a>&#8211;murdering a word, often by inflating its meaning.  &#8220;Awesome&#8221; is the classic late 20th century verbicide; &#8220;aggravating&#8221; is another.  I&#8217;m on the verge of giving up on my insistence that &#8220;impact&#8221; is not a verb, but I&#8217;m not quite there yet. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-19764</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It was flagged as spam...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably because it was a snarky comment only one half step above spam.  I&#039;d say the spam filter was doing its job...  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was flagged as spam&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably because it was a snarky comment only one half step above spam.  I&#8217;d say the spam filter was doing its job&#8230;  <img src='http://walt.lishost.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Dupuis</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-19756</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dupuis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have no idea what to make of that. Nursery rhymes as the new paradigm?&quot;

I think it&#039;s because it sounds more evangelical, like preaching the gospel or something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have no idea what to make of that. Nursery rhymes as the new paradigm?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s because it sounds more evangelical, like preaching the gospel or something.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/09/whats-wrong-with-combination/comment-page-1/#comment-19724</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The comment above is an example of why I still check SpamKarma&#039;s list of &quot;spam&quot; (only 77 since 5 p.m. yesterday--I guess Blake&#039;s changes are helping): It was flagged as spam, probably because of the multiple hyperlinks...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment above is an example of why I still check SpamKarma&#8217;s list of &#8220;spam&#8221; (only 77 since 5 p.m. yesterday&#8211;I guess Blake&#8217;s changes are helping): It was flagged as spam, probably because of the multiple hyperlinks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...but it is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20011026&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;term of art&lt;/a&gt; among the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lisjobs.com/nextgen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NextGenLibrarian&lt;/a&gt; &#8212; someone who is fluent in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case?oldid=77348007&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CamelCase&lt;/a&gt; and when &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=blog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogging&lt;/a&gt; (another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hscgroup.co.uk/j.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jargon&lt;/a&gt; term) liberally includes references to only somewhat related webpages.

Whoops.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but it is a <a href="http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20011026" rel="nofollow">term of art</a> among the <a href="http://www.lisjobs.com/nextgen/" rel="nofollow">NextGenLibrarian</a> &mdash; someone who is fluent in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case?oldid=77348007" rel="nofollow">CamelCase</a> and when <a href="http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=blog" rel="nofollow">blogging</a> (another <a href="http://www.hscgroup.co.uk/j.html" rel="nofollow">jargon</a> term) liberally includes references to only somewhat related webpages.</p>
<p>Whoops.</p>
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