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	<title>Comments on: Pathetic little boys in men&#8217;s bodies</title>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/08/pathetic-little-boys-in-mens-bodies/comment-page-1/#comment-16401</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will certainly agree that the piece speaks for itself, as does Forbes&#039; &quot;Maxim with Money&quot; decision to run it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will certainly agree that the piece speaks for itself, as does Forbes&#8217; &#8220;Maxim with Money&#8221; decision to run it.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/08/pathetic-little-boys-in-mens-bodies/comment-page-1/#comment-16400</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this entry yesterday, I was interested to see it on Good Morning America this morning. Oddly enough, they mentioned trying to contact the author for his input and Forbes &quot;spokeswoman&quot; said he was unavailable for further comment and felt the piece spoke for itself.

It reminded me of the song from &quot;My Fair Lady,&quot; &quot;Why Can&#039;t a Woman Be More Like a Man?&quot; Alas, he can&#039;t have it both ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this entry yesterday, I was interested to see it on Good Morning America this morning. Oddly enough, they mentioned trying to contact the author for his input and Forbes &#8220;spokeswoman&#8221; said he was unavailable for further comment and felt the piece spoke for itself.</p>
<p>It reminded me of the song from &#8220;My Fair Lady,&#8221; &#8220;Why Can&#8217;t a Woman Be More Like a Man?&#8221; Alas, he can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen de la Pena McCook</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/08/pathetic-little-boys-in-mens-bodies/comment-page-1/#comment-16142</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen de la Pena McCook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 02:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[..and people wonder why we still need COSWL?
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WHY YOU SHOULD MARRY A DOORMATE
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2006/08/23/why-you-should-marry-a-doormat/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..and people wonder why we still need COSWL?<br />
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WHY YOU SHOULD MARRY A DOORMATE<br />
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/08/pathetic-little-boys-in-mens-bodies/comment-page-1/#comment-16139</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree. Correlation does not imply causation: That&#039;s the most fundamental issue when dealing with &quot;statistics&quot; of this sort. 

It was a misogynistic piece made even worse by the slide-show approach. You&#039;ll note that I didn&#039;t call the author out by name, but it was a foolish, sexist article.

And if that&#039;s hysterical, then so be it. For that matter, crying &quot;political correctness&quot; has gotten very old as a way of defending nasty pieces of work.

It&#039;s not a matter of &quot;refuting findings&quot;; it&#039;s a matter of tone, interpretation--and, to be sure, of assuming that correlation implies causation. &quot;Lessons to be learned&quot; are not going to come from sexist articles in Forbes: Of that I&#039;m sure.

(After looking at the name of your blog, I was seriously tempted to delete this as trolling, but chose not to--particularly since the name is right there for people to link to. Readers can draw their own conclusions.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree. Correlation does not imply causation: That&#8217;s the most fundamental issue when dealing with &#8220;statistics&#8221; of this sort. </p>
<p>It was a misogynistic piece made even worse by the slide-show approach. You&#8217;ll note that I didn&#8217;t call the author out by name, but it was a foolish, sexist article.</p>
<p>And if that&#8217;s hysterical, then so be it. For that matter, crying &#8220;political correctness&#8221; has gotten very old as a way of defending nasty pieces of work.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of &#8220;refuting findings&#8221;; it&#8217;s a matter of tone, interpretation&#8211;and, to be sure, of assuming that correlation implies causation. &#8220;Lessons to be learned&#8221; are not going to come from sexist articles in Forbes: Of that I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>(After looking at the name of your blog, I was seriously tempted to delete this as trolling, but chose not to&#8211;particularly since the name is right there for people to link to. Readers can draw their own conclusions.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brad K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walt,

I followed the links to Jennifer&#039;s site, where the articles are listed.  Forbes.com has removed the articles.

I started with the slideshow, the nine &#039;reasons&#039;.  I disagree with the published motivations of the study findings listed, but the findings themselves feel reasonably correct.  And the Noer article seems to proceed logically.  I do not believe that the author, Michael Noer, feels strongly about the topic; the article does not seem slanted to personal bias, merely to reflect a surprising assortment of findings.

Political correctness, the &#039;emperor has no clothes&#039; conundrum, seems to be hysterically reacting to the Forbes article.  And I am disappointed that all the criticism is about the title and tone of the article, with no attempt to refute the findings and sources cited.  This feels more like a political agenda with the power to harm us all, and no intent to preserve objective consideration.   

What is most disappointing to me, is that if the findings cited are true, then there are lessons to be learned that will benefit coming generations.  Lessons that will likely be buried under hysteria because Noer &#039;dared&#039; to report those findings.  I really believe any mistakes Noer made in composing his article are minor and without malice.  If he actually made a mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>I followed the links to Jennifer&#8217;s site, where the articles are listed.  Forbes.com has removed the articles.</p>
<p>I started with the slideshow, the nine &#8216;reasons&#8217;.  I disagree with the published motivations of the study findings listed, but the findings themselves feel reasonably correct.  And the Noer article seems to proceed logically.  I do not believe that the author, Michael Noer, feels strongly about the topic; the article does not seem slanted to personal bias, merely to reflect a surprising assortment of findings.</p>
<p>Political correctness, the &#8216;emperor has no clothes&#8217; conundrum, seems to be hysterically reacting to the Forbes article.  And I am disappointed that all the criticism is about the title and tone of the article, with no attempt to refute the findings and sources cited.  This feels more like a political agenda with the power to harm us all, and no intent to preserve objective consideration.   </p>
<p>What is most disappointing to me, is that if the findings cited are true, then there are lessons to be learned that will benefit coming generations.  Lessons that will likely be buried under hysteria because Noer &#8216;dared&#8217; to report those findings.  I really believe any mistakes Noer made in composing his article are minor and without malice.  If he actually made a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently Forbes pulled the article--but that doesn&#039;t excuse running it and the idiotic slide show in the first place. Unless Forbes is actually a wiki disguised as a magazine site...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Forbes pulled the article&#8211;but that doesn&#8217;t excuse running it and the idiotic slide show in the first place. Unless Forbes is actually a wiki disguised as a magazine site&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CW</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2006/08/pathetic-little-boys-in-mens-bodies/comment-page-1/#comment-16128</link>
		<dc:creator>CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good grief - having followed the link you provided, I am speechless!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief &#8211; having followed the link you provided, I am speechless!</p>
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