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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2976</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone happens upon this, an update to the above may be in order. 

I have written the central portion of a probable C&amp;I essay on Library 2.0. (The central portion excerpts a range of statements about the subject and adds my own commentary as appropriate.) Unfortunately, or fortunately, or whatever, what I hoped would be the core of a nice 3,500-word to 5,000-word (that is, 5- to 7-page in C&amp;I&#039;s PDF form) Perspective is currently at 14,000 words. 

That omits the prefatory portions (which I suspect will be a series of one-liners of the &quot;Library 2.0 is...&quot; variety, based on statements within the core, and maybe several one-paragraph asserted definitions taken directly from the core excerpts) and the portions that attempt to provide some overall perspective and conclusions. 

In one &lt;a href=&quot;http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ5i14.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent case&lt;/a&gt;, discussing the Open Content Alliance and Google Book Search, I separated the two--one front-page essay with my overall comments and a much longer core essay full of excerpts and comments. That might make sense here as well--but if I do that, or if I do the &quot;usual,&quot; then it comes out to a long issue&#039;s worth of content unless I manage to slash at least one-third of what I have already. And I&#039;m not that good a self-editor (as C&amp;I readers know all too well).

So it&#039;s possible--not probable yet, but possible--that I might put out an initial serious foray into this area a week or two before ALA Midwinter, as a special issue. (I&#039;ve already made some promises that mean it can&#039;t happen before January 8 or so.) As I said to a couple of other people, &quot;Of course, that may mean I&#039;ll have to wear Groucho glasses during Midwinter...&quot; since a few Library 2.0 people may (or may not) be upset with the commentary. 

Alternatively, if I can cut the heck out of the core section, it might be a major portion of the next C&amp;I, which would probably come out a couple of days before Midwinter. 

I&#039;m hoping to firm up the first draft in the next day or two, let it sit while I move on to some other stuff (not all of it writing-related or work-related!), and come back to it fresh a few days later. Then we&#039;ll see what happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone happens upon this, an update to the above may be in order. </p>
<p>I have written the central portion of a probable C&amp;I essay on Library 2.0. (The central portion excerpts a range of statements about the subject and adds my own commentary as appropriate.) Unfortunately, or fortunately, or whatever, what I hoped would be the core of a nice 3,500-word to 5,000-word (that is, 5- to 7-page in C&amp;I&#8217;s PDF form) Perspective is currently at 14,000 words. </p>
<p>That omits the prefatory portions (which I suspect will be a series of one-liners of the &#8220;Library 2.0 is&#8230;&#8221; variety, based on statements within the core, and maybe several one-paragraph asserted definitions taken directly from the core excerpts) and the portions that attempt to provide some overall perspective and conclusions. </p>
<p>In one <a href="http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ5i14.pdf" rel="nofollow">recent case</a>, discussing the Open Content Alliance and Google Book Search, I separated the two&#8211;one front-page essay with my overall comments and a much longer core essay full of excerpts and comments. That might make sense here as well&#8211;but if I do that, or if I do the &#8220;usual,&#8221; then it comes out to a long issue&#8217;s worth of content unless I manage to slash at least one-third of what I have already. And I&#8217;m not that good a self-editor (as C&amp;I readers know all too well).</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s possible&#8211;not probable yet, but possible&#8211;that I might put out an initial serious foray into this area a week or two before ALA Midwinter, as a special issue. (I&#8217;ve already made some promises that mean it can&#8217;t happen before January 8 or so.) As I said to a couple of other people, &#8220;Of course, that may mean I&#8217;ll have to wear Groucho glasses during Midwinter&#8230;&#8221; since a few Library 2.0 people may (or may not) be upset with the commentary. </p>
<p>Alternatively, if I can cut the heck out of the core section, it might be a major portion of the next C&amp;I, which would probably come out a couple of days before Midwinter. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping to firm up the first draft in the next day or two, let it sit while I move on to some other stuff (not all of it writing-related or work-related!), and come back to it fresh a few days later. Then we&#8217;ll see what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2821</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not that the new issue was &quot;too early for a thoughtful perspective on Library 2.0.&quot; It&#039;s the other way around: I&#039;m just not ready to write such a perspective yet, and may not be for weeks to come...

It&#039;s always possible that, after I go through all the notes, I&#039;ll conclude that I don&#039;t have much to add to the discussion (or that I&#039;m not willing to deal with the ramifications, although that&#039;s unlikely, as I&#039;ve achieved a kind of Father William status--and if that reference doesn&#039;t make sense, see Lewis Carroll). More likely, when I have a perspective ready, it will form one of the capstones of an issue that will be ready when the perspective is.  

(I already see that a (C)4: Locking Down Technology perspective is needed soon, given that two congresscritters have introduced legislation to &quot;close the analog hole.&quot; So there&#039;s two perspectives for a future issue right there...if/when I have time to deal with them.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that the new issue was &#8220;too early for a thoughtful perspective on Library 2.0.&#8221; It&#8217;s the other way around: I&#8217;m just not ready to write such a perspective yet, and may not be for weeks to come&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always possible that, after I go through all the notes, I&#8217;ll conclude that I don&#8217;t have much to add to the discussion (or that I&#8217;m not willing to deal with the ramifications, although that&#8217;s unlikely, as I&#8217;ve achieved a kind of Father William status&#8211;and if that reference doesn&#8217;t make sense, see Lewis Carroll). More likely, when I have a perspective ready, it will form one of the capstones of an issue that will be ready when the perspective is.  </p>
<p>(I already see that a (C)4: Locking Down Technology perspective is needed soon, given that two congresscritters have introduced legislation to &#8220;close the analog hole.&#8221; So there&#8217;s two perspectives for a future issue right there&#8230;if/when I have time to deal with them.)</p>
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		<title>By: WoW!ter</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2818</link>
		<dc:creator>WoW!ter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 06:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pity that your last issue (6:1) was too early for a thoughtfull perspective on library 2.0. It certainly would have been appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pity that your last issue (6:1) was too early for a thoughtfull perspective on library 2.0. It certainly would have been appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2640</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops: Immediate clarification. &quot;&lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; that&#039;s a semantic issue&quot; would be a better way to put it. I think semantics matter, and in this case the semantics are tricky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops: Immediate clarification. &#8220;<i>and</i> that&#8217;s a semantic issue&#8221; would be a better way to put it. I think semantics matter, and in this case the semantics are tricky.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2639</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I have something useful to add--which I hope will be soon--I&#039;ll add it. So far, I think most of the discussion I&#039;ve seen has been non-confrontational. The term itself carries a touch of confrontation with it, but that&#039;s a semantic issue.

I want to dig a little at what I see being said and argued, the extent to which I think it&#039;s really something new (and, to be sure, it may be important to say anew even if it&#039;s not a new concept), and the whole set of issues surrounding balance, continuity, &quot;disruptive change&quot; vs. development, &quot;and&quot; vs. &quot;or&quot;...

What I do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; want to do, and why I have avoided addressing the issue so far (other than this non-post), is to indulge in my own rhetorical excess. That&#039;s one reason I&#039;m holding off until I can put together some coherent thoughts, synthesize what I&#039;m reading, and hopefully serve as a positive force in the set of discussion. I&#039;m not much for bandwagons, but I also try to avoid putting things down for the sake of naysaying. (And I&#039;m trying harder in that area as I grow--sorry, Steven C.--less young chronologically.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I have something useful to add&#8211;which I hope will be soon&#8211;I&#8217;ll add it. So far, I think most of the discussion I&#8217;ve seen has been non-confrontational. The term itself carries a touch of confrontation with it, but that&#8217;s a semantic issue.</p>
<p>I want to dig a little at what I see being said and argued, the extent to which I think it&#8217;s really something new (and, to be sure, it may be important to say anew even if it&#8217;s not a new concept), and the whole set of issues surrounding balance, continuity, &#8220;disruptive change&#8221; vs. development, &#8220;and&#8221; vs. &#8220;or&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>What I do <i>not</i> want to do, and why I have avoided addressing the issue so far (other than this non-post), is to indulge in my own rhetorical excess. That&#8217;s one reason I&#8217;m holding off until I can put together some coherent thoughts, synthesize what I&#8217;m reading, and hopefully serve as a positive force in the set of discussion. I&#8217;m not much for bandwagons, but I also try to avoid putting things down for the sake of naysaying. (And I&#8217;m trying harder in that area as I grow&#8211;sorry, Steven C.&#8211;less young chronologically.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Miller</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2637</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone you&#039;d presumably label either an &#039;advocate&#039; or &#039;Advocate&#039;, I honestly would value your opinions and input to the discussion which (on the whole) I believe has not been - and hope will remain - non-confrontational.

This isn&#039;t a battle. It&#039;s not right against wrong. It&#039;s a discussion about some of the ways in which things are changing inside and outside libraries, and the things that we can do to harness or manage those changes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone you&#8217;d presumably label either an &#8216;advocate&#8217; or &#8216;Advocate&#8217;, I honestly would value your opinions and input to the discussion which (on the whole) I believe has not been &#8211; and hope will remain &#8211; non-confrontational.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a battle. It&#8217;s not right against wrong. It&#8217;s a discussion about some of the ways in which things are changing inside and outside libraries, and the things that we can do to harness or manage those changes.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2613</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just copied what Bloglines showed me as your main entry point, but I&#039;ve replaced it...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just copied what Bloglines showed me as your main entry point, but I&#8217;ve replaced it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/not-a-library-20-post/comment-page-1/#comment-2612</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Walt! New place for my blog on my site is:

http://www.tametheweb.com

Thanks! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Walt! New place for my blog on my site is:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tametheweb.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tametheweb.com</a></p>
<p>Thanks! <img src='http://walt.lishost.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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