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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3128</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[For the record: Five p.m. &lt;del datetime=&quot;2006-01-09T15:40:26+00:00&quot;&gt;Monday&lt;/del&gt;Friday is now past. I&#039;ve added comments from here, others received on my own gmail address, and others received through other means to what&#039;s now a 24,000 word essay, which I might be able to cut to, oh, 22,000 words. Watch for a new issue next week, with some three dozen voices heard regarding &quot;Library 2.0.&quot;]

&lt;b&gt;Update Monday, where my brain was Friday:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ6i2.pdf&quot;&gt;The special issue&lt;/a&gt; is out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[For the record: Five p.m. <del datetime="2006-01-09T15:40:26+00:00">Monday</del>Friday is now past. I've added comments from here, others received on my own gmail address, and others received through other means to what's now a 24,000 word essay, which I might be able to cut to, oh, 22,000 words. Watch for a new issue next week, with some three dozen voices heard regarding "Library 2.0."]</p>
<p><b>Update Monday, where my brain was Friday:</b> <a href="http://cites.boisestate.edu/civ6i2.pdf">The special issue</a> is out.</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3100</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Tom,

Whew. I may very well add some paragraphs from that to the T. Scott comments I already have in the draft essay...it&#039;s considerably more forceful. (I&#039;d probably pick it up anyway, since you&#039;re on my Bloglines list, but thanks for the explicit pointer!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom,</p>
<p>Whew. I may very well add some paragraphs from that to the T. Scott comments I already have in the draft essay&#8230;it&#8217;s considerably more forceful. (I&#8217;d probably pick it up anyway, since you&#8217;re on my Bloglines list, but thanks for the explicit pointer!)</p>
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		<title>By: T. Scott</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just put up a post that is far longer than your word limit, but if any of it is useful to you, feel free.  (T. Scott Plutchak, Director, UAB Lister Hill Library).
http://tscott.typepad.com/tsp/2006/01/why_i_dislike_t.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just put up a post that is far longer than your word limit, but if any of it is useful to you, feel free.  (T. Scott Plutchak, Director, UAB Lister Hill Library).<br />
<a href="http://tscott.typepad.com/tsp/2006/01/why_i_dislike_t.html" rel="nofollow">http://tscott.typepad.com/tsp/2006/01/why_i_dislike_t.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3077</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks both. Don&#039;t know that I&#039;ll use all of each comment (and there are no live links in C&amp;I), but I&#039;ll consider them and any more that arrive by Friday afternoon.

(Brian: In this case, I didn&#039;t know whether you wanted your last name used...and wouldn&#039;t have gotten around to retrieving it from LL until the weekend. I&#039;m lazy, you know. Anyway, thanks. As for the biblioblogosphere piece...that seems like a lifetime ago.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks both. Don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ll use all of each comment (and there are no live links in C&amp;I), but I&#8217;ll consider them and any more that arrive by Friday afternoon.</p>
<p>(Brian: In this case, I didn&#8217;t know whether you wanted your last name used&#8230;and wouldn&#8217;t have gotten around to retrieving it from LL until the weekend. I&#8217;m lazy, you know. Anyway, thanks. As for the biblioblogosphere piece&#8230;that seems like a lifetime ago.)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3071</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 05:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walt,

Feel free to use this comment in C&amp;I if you like. One of these days I&#039;ll write something substantial about Library 2.0 on my own blog, bt for now, I seem to just be leaving comments on others&#039;. It&#039;s not clear to me if I can put anchor tags in my comment, so links are at the end.

-Steve Lawson

I believe that Library 2.0 is most recognizable (and useful) as an attempt to bring libraries&#039; electronic services up to par with what people expect in a Web 2.0 environment. Look at the &quot;Core Competencies&quot; and &quot;Design Patterns&quot; of Web 2.0 in Tim O&#039;Reilly&#039;s article &quot;What is Web 2.0&quot; and think about library examples:

&quot;Cooperate, Don&#039;t Control&quot;: patrons hacking together AIM bot searches of the catalog (Edward Vielmetti); third parties getting RSS feeds for patron records (Library Elf); stable URLs for catalog records (Open WorldCat).

&quot;Harnessing Collective Intelligence&quot;: blogs (with comments enabled) as the library home page (AADL and several others); user reviews in the catalog (Open WorldCat); exploring the use of user-added tags in the catalog (no live examples that I know of).

Embracing the &quot;perpetual beta&quot; by adding features and services as soon as they become practical, and not waiting for a &quot;monolithic release.&quot;

I am sympathetic to those, like Michael Stephens and company, who argue for non-technology applications of these patterns, but I find it much harder to draw clear L2/non-L2 distinctions off the Web.

Links:
O&#039;Reilly: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html
Vielmetti: http://vielmetti.typepad.com/vacuum/2005/12/a_design_for_a_.html
Library Elf: http://www.libraryelf.com/
AADL: http://aadl.org/
Michael Stevens and company: http://tametheweb.com/2006/01/defining_library_20_ii_is_it_m.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,</p>
<p>Feel free to use this comment in C&amp;I if you like. One of these days I&#8217;ll write something substantial about Library 2.0 on my own blog, bt for now, I seem to just be leaving comments on others&#8217;. It&#8217;s not clear to me if I can put anchor tags in my comment, so links are at the end.</p>
<p>-Steve Lawson</p>
<p>I believe that Library 2.0 is most recognizable (and useful) as an attempt to bring libraries&#8217; electronic services up to par with what people expect in a Web 2.0 environment. Look at the &#8220;Core Competencies&#8221; and &#8220;Design Patterns&#8221; of Web 2.0 in Tim O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s article &#8220;What is Web 2.0&#8243; and think about library examples:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cooperate, Don&#8217;t Control&#8221;: patrons hacking together AIM bot searches of the catalog (Edward Vielmetti); third parties getting RSS feeds for patron records (Library Elf); stable URLs for catalog records (Open WorldCat).</p>
<p>&#8220;Harnessing Collective Intelligence&#8221;: blogs (with comments enabled) as the library home page (AADL and several others); user reviews in the catalog (Open WorldCat); exploring the use of user-added tags in the catalog (no live examples that I know of).</p>
<p>Embracing the &#8220;perpetual beta&#8221; by adding features and services as soon as they become practical, and not waiting for a &#8220;monolithic release.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am sympathetic to those, like Michael Stephens and company, who argue for non-technology applications of these patterns, but I find it much harder to draw clear L2/non-L2 distinctions off the Web.</p>
<p>Links:<br />
O&#8217;Reilly: <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html</a><br />
Vielmetti: <a href="http://vielmetti.typepad.com/vacuum/2005/12/a_design_for_a_.html" rel="nofollow">http://vielmetti.typepad.com/vacuum/2005/12/a_design_for_a_.html</a><br />
Library Elf: <a href="http://www.libraryelf.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.libraryelf.com/</a><br />
AADL: <a href="http://aadl.org/" rel="nofollow">http://aadl.org/</a><br />
Michael Stevens and company: <a href="http://tametheweb.com/2006/01/defining_library_20_ii_is_it_m.html" rel="nofollow">http://tametheweb.com/2006/01/defining_library_20_ii_is_it_m.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Smith</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3067</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 02:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My bad. First-name-only in comments is habit. Also, you *had* my last name when you put my blog in your Stupendous Sixty!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad. First-name-only in comments is habit. Also, you *had* my last name when you put my blog in your Stupendous Sixty!</p>
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		<title>By: walt</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3055</link>
		<dc:creator>walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian,

Thanks. An interesting comment...

&quot;Feel free to use&quot; is all I need--and, for that matter, I assume that the CC license for the blog covers the comments as well. You want to provide a last name, or shall I just use &quot;Brian&quot; and note your blog&#039;s name?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Thanks. An interesting comment&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Feel free to use&#8221; is all I need&#8211;and, for that matter, I assume that the CC license for the blog covers the comments as well. You want to provide a last name, or shall I just use &#8220;Brian&#8221; and note your blog&#8217;s name?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://walt.lishost.org/2005/12/library-20-an-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-3049</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t Library 2.0 really happen decades ago, when libraries started buying the books that people wanted to read, in addition to &quot;books that are good for you&quot;? As far as I can tell, that&#039;s what the Library 2.0 boils down to: being user-driven, saving the user&#039;s time. Not exactly new ideas.

&quot;Library 2.0&quot; is just a faddish catchphrase. Ignore it, because it&#039;ll be gone in 6 months. The only things labeled &quot;2.0&quot; with which library folks need to be concerned are pencils. And maybe RSS feeds. 

(Feel free to use in C&amp;I. Do I need to hunt down an appropriate CC license for this comment?)  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Library 2.0 really happen decades ago, when libraries started buying the books that people wanted to read, in addition to &#8220;books that are good for you&#8221;? As far as I can tell, that&#8217;s what the Library 2.0 boils down to: being user-driven, saving the user&#8217;s time. Not exactly new ideas.</p>
<p>&#8220;Library 2.0&#8243; is just a faddish catchphrase. Ignore it, because it&#8217;ll be gone in 6 months. The only things labeled &#8220;2.0&#8243; with which library folks need to be concerned are pencils. And maybe RSS feeds. </p>
<p>(Feel free to use in C&amp;I. Do I need to hunt down an appropriate CC license for this comment?)  <img src='http://walt.lishost.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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